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In reply to: Roster number
November 3, 2022 at 5:02 pm #3433Will Christopherson
ParticipantHi Roman –
Apologies, we actually went digging into the Appendix (which… for some reason isn’t found on this website… I’m trying to get WFDF to sort that out; it’s not something I have control of) and in there it says that:
a minimum of 12 (min 6 male & 6 female for Mixed), and
a maximum of 20In reply to: Roster number
November 2, 2022 at 2:55 pm #3431Will Christopherson
ParticipantHi Roman –
Karina has informed me there’s no roster size cap for this event. There was one in 2017 but that was a venue limitation, not a typical restriction.In reply to: Roster number
November 2, 2022 at 8:15 am #3429Will Christopherson
ParticipantHi Roman –
I’m not sure if that info has been officially decided yet, but I’ve emailed Karina Woldt, WFDF Event director, to see what they’ve decided. I don’t know, but I’m guessing they’ll have an idea of numbers because they’re basically going to copy the plan for 2021 that was cancelled. But they might not yet either, so… we’ll see.
-Will
WFDF Beach Ultimate Committee MemberIn reply to: Under the Tape is IN – Interpretation of rule
March 30, 2019 at 7:12 am #1648Will Christopherson
ParticipantHi Sofia –
1 – Does that mean that if I am running up the line, drag the tape (on the side of my sand-socks without noticing), catch the disc with the tape dragged so that it is now clearly not in a straight line with the field corners (OB but inside the tape), I am in?
Yes, as long as you’re not stepping on the tape when you catch the disc.
Here’s why:
We play on a surface that is undulating and moves, and is marked by tape that also moves and twists. Invariably, something will shift the tape – wind, water, player movements, etc. The reality of how we play is that we’ve simply accepted the new boundaries as the tape shifts: if wind/water/shifting sand moves the tape, that new space is still considered in. The boundaries on beach are ever-shifting, and we’ve always kept playing and not worrying about it.
Unfortunately, until now, Beach rules have never actually clarified how to handle this. There is nothing in the ‘old’ Beach rules that addresses how to handle the very typical situation of shifting boundaries (largely because the old rules were basically just adapted from grass, where the lines are not prone to moving and more commonly marked by paint). By adding 2.5.1 – “If the field tape moves inadvertently, that is the new boundary.” – we’ve clarified the rules to match how we actually play.
So, yes, if someone inadvertently drags the tape while running next to it, that is the new boundary – same as it would be for any other reason the tape has moved.2 – If I am standing still with one of my feet under the line and thrown a disc, am I in? The argument that the toes were “beyond the tape” in the out of bounds area is going to be a serious issue. Especially because often they are under the sand and not visible.
4 – In all cases or in any case that the foot is below the line tape, how do you know that the foot has not gone beyond the tape?
Please see my reply to Lorne Beckman’s comment here for a full explanation:
https://www.facebook.com/worldflyingdisc/posts/21480373852815283 – a layout in the endzone where the foot drags the line (obviously unintentional) – is it in?
I’m not entirely clear on the situation you’re describing – can you be more specific?
In reply to: No Specific Time Limit to Put the Disc Into Play – clarification
March 30, 2019 at 5:38 am #1647Will Christopherson
ParticipantHi Sofia –
That’s correct – only 8.5.2 (and its sub-headings) is NOT a part of the beach rules. All the rest still applies.
That is, gameplay hasn’t changed to how we’ve always played beach: you may not delay bringing the disc into play, but neither is there a specific time limit to do so.
(To be clear, as I’m not sure if your comment is stating this, you can only call ‘Delay of Game’ if they are delaying getting to the disc and/or bringing it into play. If they are within 3m of the disc but still walking to it, for instance, they are not delaying the game and the call is not warranted.)We will be definitely be revisiting this for future iterations of the rules changes. In theory we want to keep grass and beach rulesets in line with each other, but we want to get a better idea of how this time limit impacts beach-specific play before we enact it. We’re hoping to test it out in some games or perhaps even tournaments, watching beach film to see what the current timing tends to be without this rule (and how relatively long/short/necessary the timing is on sand), and also gathering feedback from players.
Hope that helps!
-Will Christopherson
WFDF Beach Ultimate Rules ChairIn reply to: Calling violation of 10.2 on own team
December 5, 2013 at 11:07 am #457Will Christopherson
ParticipantInteresting – I suspect that this is at odds with what a large population plays by, that being ‘the disc has been checked in, that’s your fault for allowing the check’. I say this because of the number of times I’ve seen teams verbally beaten back on their call becausee, “…Your teammate checked the disc in.”
In reply to: Calling violation of 10.2 on own team
November 30, 2013 at 9:21 am #454Will Christopherson
ParticipantRuebs –
I’ve definitely seen this play out on an Australian Nationals level – the disc being checked in too early is considered a ‘fault’ on the part of the Defender who checks it in, and I’d say a lot of people now play under that assumption.
Is that concept, that if the Defender checks in too early it’s his/her own fault if the Offense gains advantage, backed up by the rules?
