[Conor Hogan]

When I say wrong I mean we’re focusing on showing we know the rules rather than focusing on playing a sport fairly and competitively

[Conor Hogan]

I’ve nothing against time limit violations, I didn’t mention them in my original post. But I have issue with people calling things that don’t impact the play to gain advantage. I’m yet to see it called for players stepping backwards to accept a pull tbf. It’s more when people step forward to set up downfield that people call it.

If you get to a line quickly, call your O and D, and people are leaving within the 60s but you give a hand, it’s surely disingenuous to call time violation as people not involved in the next point are clearly making an attempt to leave the field. If we’re calling time limit violations on technicalities (which this would be unless you plan to roll a pull out the side where people are leaving the field) then I think we’re implementing the rules wrong…

[Conor Hogan]

I agree with the original poster – there have been some high profile blindsided double team blocks in the last 12 months, all of them from defenders thinking if they get a block on a throw on an infraction there’s no call to be made.

1.2, 1.2.1 and 1.6.2 apply, sure. But it would be useful for a specific reference for how players can resolve these blatant breaches to be mentioned in the infractions section of the rules

[Conor Hogan]

I don’t think I agree this is the right outcome…

I think this could lead to a lot more softer calls on fair contests in the air and more calls not being accepted and sent back to thrower because the outcome of a foul is goal rather than player gets the disc.

also there’s no guarantee the receiver catches the disc, foul or no foul – so this would be another rule that gives power to the offence (general vibe in the community is that offence is OP and needs a nerf)

[Conor Hogan]

Thanks for coming back so quickly Rueben!

Just to clarify further but essentially intent doesn’t matter on the second touch? I’d have thought if a defender’s second touch is to smack the disc to the floor, that’s not a travel. But if they’re macking/tipping it to make the turn a shorter field then I think that’s more of a travel and there’s a “don’t lie/be honest about intent” element.

I can see why a second touch isn’t a travel to avoid having to justify defending the same disc twice if an offensive player is still in the area but if a defender is playing for yards that feels travel-y, irrespective of number of touches, no?