[Anonymous]

Hi everybody

In a recent match a situation occured which seem difficult for me to solve using the current rules:

A player from team 1 throws the disc, but a player from team 2 intercepts it. He has control, but he trips during the landing and drops the disc.

As I see it he does not drop the disc intentionally – or at least we can assume that. So there is nothing in (13.6) which can be used?!

But according to (12.2): “12.2. If the player loses control of the disc due to subsequent contact with the ground or a
team-mate or a legitimately positioned opposition player, the catch is deemed to have
not occurred.”
The catch has never occured? So eventhough he has control there is not a double turnover?

Or is “The catch is deemed to have not occured” just another way of saying: THere is a turnover?

As stated in the beginnning: I find the situation hard to solve. Can anybody help?

[Rueben Berg]

“12.2. If the player loses control of the disc due to subsequent contact with the ground or a team-mate or a legitimately positioned opposition player, the catch is deemed to have
not occurred.”

This means that, for an interception, that players team is never considered to have been in possession. Therefore no ‘Double Turnover’.

In your scenario Team 2 is now the offense.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your reply.

How long after the landing can one say that it is due to contact with the ground? If he lands, make a pivot and then drop the disc, there is a turnover, right? 12.2 is not a carte blanche to drop the disc after an interception!?

[Rueben Berg]

If he lands, make a pivot and then drop the disc, there is a turnover, right?

Correct.

Ground contact is defined as:

all player contact with the ground directly related to a specific event or manoeuvre, including landing or recovery after being off-balance (e.g., jumping, diving, leaning, or falling).

[Wolfgang Maehr]

More precisely, I would assume player A (the person that intercepted and slipped and dropped the disc) will have to be the thrower and as such 13.6 still applies. Player A just gets up and picks up the disc with a check. i.e. thrower cannot change.

[Rueben Berg]

No. Player A only has to pick up the disc if they intentionally drop it, or place it on the ground:

If the player in possession after a turnover intentionally drops the disc, or places the disc on the ground, they must re-establish possession and restart play with a check.

This does not apply if they are ‘ground stripped’.