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October 12, 2014 at 8:49 pm #785Robert JablkoParticipant
Lately we stumbled upon a couple of difficult questions and maybe glitches in the rules, especially in 7. THE PULL. For the next iteration I suggest the following changes and/or hope that the discussion helps the rule-comittee.
– more may follow
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2. PLAYING FIELDSUGGESTION
2.7. The immediate surroundings of the playing field shall be kept clear of movable objects. If play is obstructed by non-players or objects within three (3) metres of the perimeter line, any obstructed player or thrower in possession of the disc may call “Violation”.alternatively just “thrower”
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7. THE PULLExplanation
* 7.6. does not stand by itself, since the pull is not mentioned. That is only the case in 7.7., but again not in 7.8. (except dropped-pull), 7.9., 7.10., 7.11., and 7.12. This is not consistent with other rules, who stand by themselves.
* Also 14.2. beats 7.9., and we need clarification on the thrower and pivot-point in 7.12.
* Finally,I find it confusing that sometimes the pivot is established and sometimes it MUST be established (11.3.2.1, 13.8., 13.9., 13.10., 18.2.5.1., 18.2.8.1.).
I think this could be more consistent throughout the rules. That’s why in 7.9, 7.10., and 7.11. it should be a MUST as well.SUGGESTION
7.6. After the Pull is released:
7.6.1. all players may move in any direction.
7.6.2. no player on the defensive team may touch the disc until a member of the offensive team contacts the disc or the disc contacts the ground.
7.6.3. if an offensive player, in-bounds or out-of-bounds, touches the disc before it hits the ground, and the offensive team fails to catch it, that is a turnover (a “dropped pull”).
7.6.4. If the disc initially contacts the playing field and never becomes out-of-bounds, or is caught in-bounds, the thrower must establish the pivot where the disc stops, except in cases of 14.2.
7.6.5. If the disc initially contacts the playing field and then becomes out-of-bounds without contacting an offensive player, the thrower must establish the pivot at the point on the central zone closest to where the disc went out-of-bounds (Section 11.7.)
7.6.6. If the disc initially contacts the playing field and then becomes out-of-bounds after contacting an offensive player, or an offensive player catches the pull out-of-bounds, the thrower must establish the pivot at the point on the playing field closest to where the disc became out-of-bounds (Section 11.5).
7.6.7. If the disc contacts the out-of-bounds area without first touching the playing field or an offensive player, the thrower may establish the pivot either at the brick mark closest to their defending end zone, or at the spot on the central zone closest to where the disc went out-of-bounds (Section 11.7).
7.6.7.1. The brick option must be signalled by the intended thrower before picking up the disc by fully extending one arm above their head. If the intended thrower changes, it has to be communicated to the defense and there has to reasonable time to adapt.
[b]7.6.7.2. Once any offensive player signaled the brick option before the disc was picked up, the decision cannot be reversed and the pivot point is at the brick mark.
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10 THE CHECKSUGGESTION
[b]10.5.2.1. losing control over the disc during a ground-check does not result in a turnover. The disc needs to be checked again.
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12. RECEIVERS AND POSITIONINGSUGGESTION
12.1. A player “catches” the flying disc by demonstrating sustained control of a non-spinning disc.Otherwise picking up the disc from the ground is “catching”.
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14 SCORINGSUGGESTION
[b]14.1.2. A pull is not a legal pass.
[/b]14.3. The time at which a goal is scored is when, after the disc is caught and kept in possession, contact is first made with the end zone.—————————————————————————–
15 CALLING FOULS, INFRACTIONS AND VIOLATIONSSUGGESTION
15.9. If a player from the team against which the foul, infraction or violation has been called, disagrees that it occurred, they may call “Contest”.comma added
October 14, 2014 at 8:54 am #786Robert JablkoParticipantSUGGESTION
12.1. A player “catches” the airborne disc by demonstrating sustained control of a non-spinning disc.That sounds better, because the term “flying disc” sounds like a “disc”, but I find it important to stress that is is airborne.
Also the word “airborne” has such a nice touch to it. There is no similar word in German.
September 30, 2016 at 9:12 pm #1334Seamus MurrayParticipantIs your suggestion for 14.2.1 to clarify that you can’t catch a Callahan from a fumbled/tipped pull?
Some teammates of mine were debating this, and while I think it’s really unlikely, it’s good to be clear!
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