[John Kofi]

It should be overly stressed that an objective perspective close to the action on a simple binary situation must be considered as best perspective and should not be contested.

Game advisor validating a stall out, down or out call should not be contested.

[Olivier Cassart]

Self-refereed or refereed Ultimate ?
That is also a simple binary situation…

The real pro self-refereed Ultimate people always said that to introduce Game Advisors was a dangerous slippery slope because of course that some players (like you or others) will always ask for more GA decisions power.
It was exactly like that in the US with the Observers (passive at the beginning) who are now, sometimes, really close to referees.

Ultimate must maintain its fundamental values, read again the Spirit of the Game rules, which are noble values ​​based on mutual respect between players, and which have allowed the current development of Ultimate throughout the World and in schools.

If players cannot disagree with a GA “perspective”, that is refereed Ultimate.

[John Kofi]

Self referring is also about not cheating and being able to listen to others to take a good decision.
This is not what I’ve seen from some players at WUC.

I used GA as example because they are objective as non players and try to have best perspective. I love that GAs often say that their perspective was not good enough. But when it is, it should be respected, else it’s a clear cheating situation, and players often seem helpless around those.

Spirit of the game must be enforced (by the rules and players, if not officials).
There is a difference between GA makes a call and Best perspective should not be contested.

Self Referring in Ultimate is not a binary situation. Some situations are clearly out of the player’s hand/eye, but they still have a say and a possibility in the heat of the game to fail SotG.

Watch Canada France Mixed and tell me how to make it a fair game.