Hi Mosley77 et al.
yep- i agree that the correct call in ep.4 was the D player calling dangerous play, and avoiding contact.
I also agree that it’s hard for the O player to believe it and accept the turnover. Maybe we just need to start seeing more of these calls for them to become accepted. There’s no doubt they will be controversial and involve discussions on the field, mainly around who had rights to the space.
From my 20 years of ultimate, i’d make these observations:
1. The majority of dangerous collisions involve poaching D players.
2. In the majority of these collisions, the poaching D player had best perspective on the impending play, and therefore the most responsibility to avoid contact.
A very common example is the O player cutting up the line to get the disc forward of the thrower (power position). The O cutter has normally beaten his defender and presumably has seen clear space in front of the thrower. The O cutter is therefore completely focused on the disc and thrower, not where they are going. I think this is reasonable in most cases, but gets harder to justify the further the throw goes. A poaching defender will normally have full view of the thrower, the O cutter and the disc.
I’m about to link to another example of this type of collision from our recent Nationals 2014 in Australia- look for a new video post.
Greeny
#22 Phat Chilly (for WUCC2014)